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Title: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Kristilyn on Jul 28th, 2004, 7:30pm So if there's lots of people who have these promo copies, is anyone willing to share the goods on the tracks? Or would that be too much of a spoiler? -K |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by alx59 on Jul 29th, 2004, 9:11am I wish some copies will be available soon on Ebay as I want a promo! |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Jon on Jul 30th, 2004, 12:27am pilgrim lucky me mary california day one out in the park vertigo when another midnight the score your wish is my wish wake up |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by obi-john on Jul 30th, 2004, 1:56am but... what are all these songs like? I'm surprised no one has spoke up about it. I'm quite interested to see what "The Score" is going to sound like. |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Kristilyn on Jul 30th, 2004, 12:39pm Me too :) (that's kind of what I meant with my first message) -K |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Jason on Jul 30th, 2004, 3:25pm I haven't heard all of the tracks yet but it's kind of been hit or miss so far. Some of the backing vocals are a bit too cute for their own good. :-/ (The Score is great, tho. :P) |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by gigs on Jul 30th, 2004, 9:01pm I have the full version of "Lucky Me" off the radio on MP3, not bad, not bad! |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by night_bugs on Aug 1st, 2004, 8:51am How did you get the mp3???! I've been searching and searching but I can't find it anywhere other than Purtracks! Please let me know! |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by gigs on Aug 1st, 2004, 6:56pm i recorded it off the radio on the internet, an ottowa radio station, the radio station in edmonton doesn't play it! i wrote to them asking why....anyways yea....that's how i got it. |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by James0 on Aug 3rd, 2004, 5:07am on 08/01/04 at 18:56:44, gigs wrote:
Try CJSR - 88.5 FM - Edmonton, AB (U of A) they might play it if you asked. |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Jon on Aug 3rd, 2004, 12:07pm my takes. the whole thing is rather produced and pop-ified, but not bad... pilgrim-good, one of my fav tracks lucky me-good, but produced with scary backing vocals at times mary-HATE it. totally different tempo and everything..just...yuck california-really good, another fav day one-good out in the park-decent vertigo-good, sounds unfinished when another midnight-no real comment the score-good your wish is my wish-good, overlaying vocals may be a bit much at times but pretty true to the live versions. probably the most stripped down song on the album wake up-no real comment |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Nikolita on Aug 3rd, 2004, 10:55pm I agree that the album is very produced... but my first comment has to be that it is F*CKING awesome. It is so good that I have to use an expletive and I NEVER use expletives. I'll give a full review later, but for now I'll say that this album will probably lose some fans but gain a LOT more. Yeah, it's definitely more "pop" but Sarah has always liked pop. In one interview I read she talked about how much she likes to rock out with her band. Now she's just started recording it. Songs that really stick out: "Your Wish is my Wish," "Wake up" (which is very reminiscent of Sarah Harmer), and "Pilgrim." ~ng |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Nikolita on Aug 4th, 2004, 6:53am As a side note... This may be a very good example of why Sarah doesn't like bootlegs/live recordings (I think for all intents and purposes, these two expressions have been wrongly assumed to have the same meaning). We first heard her live version of such songs as Mary and Lucky Me. Songs she wasn't finished with yet. We got accustomed to them. Sarah finishes them and then we don't like them because they are "so different" from the "original." This is quality control. By encouraging us to not have live recordings, she would hopefully, never have to deal with "dissapointing" her fans. They would understand that she only wants us to have what she considers as her "best" copy of the song. Alright. I'm pretty sick of the subject so I'm not going to say much more about it. ;) ~ng |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by obi-john on Aug 4th, 2004, 8:53am "We first heard her live version of such songs as Mary and Lucky Me. Songs she wasn't finished with yet. We got accustomed to them." I'd still have to disagree with that. She's the one who played these songs live - someone had to hear them. I just really think the live versions are true to everything she's produced up until this point. I haven't heard the studio version of Mary yet, so I'll hold my judgement on that right now. The live version is incredible though. |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by Paul on Aug 5th, 2004, 5:13am Something Sarah does when she performs Lucky Me caught my attention and leads me to a thought that supports what Nicole wrote. In the little break/instrumental section, she sings off-mic the "la la la la la lala" part. It's one of those things that doesn't seem to be integral to the melody of the song, but is more of a flourish, a garnish to what's going on. I think it shows that, beyond what we hear her playing and singing, she's got other ideas for parts swirling around in that brain of hers just waiting to be realized. Not knowing the inner workings of her mind, I can only say in general that some songwriters, when they come up with a song, they have a fully arranged idea for the song. Maybe it's orchestrated with strings and horns, maybe it's got layers of background vocals and harmonies, maybe it's just using a three piece rock band, maybe there's an alpen horn blaring over the chorus. Whatever, until he or she can record those parts together as part of the song, the vision for the song won't be realized. In the meantime, s/he will probably do a demo of the song that's bare bones, so as not to forget how it goes. This will probably be played for friends, managers, agents, bookers, etc. so that they get a feel for what's going on, and they can add some input. It'll even be performed live, but obviously, if the artist is playing solo, s/he can't recreate all the parts s/he hears in her head, so you get a "work in progress" version. The live performance is to gauge how songs in their essence will connect with listeners; it's like a focus group test, and the artist can tell by how engaged the audience is or how bored they look, whether a song works or not. The end-vision of the song, with all the vocal and instrumental parts mixed together with certain stylistic production touches, is what Sarah is aiming for, and that finished sculpture of a song is what she wants the listeners to hear coming from their stereo systems. Sort of a "I want you to hear the song the way I hear the song" creative control. |
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Title: Re: Well, speaking of the new disc ... Post by James0 on Aug 5th, 2004, 5:44am on 08/05/04 at 05:13:06, Paul wrote:
Slean does work like this at times, getting a gestalt version of a song including orchestration. I recall her writing out orchestra parts about half an hour before a show (long ago at the Reverb), no second guessing, no mistakes, just poof, fully formed in her head. I've also seen her work and rework a song multiple times so that its barely recognizable, or add so many flourishes that the inner core of the song is hidden. I would have to say she has a fairly complex overal approach to songwriting and that there's no one way she does things. |
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